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Opinions vs. Tact

  • Jul. 27th, 2006 at 10:40 AM
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I try to be very honest about what I write in this journal, and I feel like I often say somewhat personal things that I otherwise wouldn't reveal in a public forum. However, there are often things I never discuss because my opinions are different from what many others think and I don't feel the need to upset friends or random people just to make my point.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I feel like I'm censoring myself enough already since there are certain subjects I am not going to discuss in front of an unknown audience. Do I want to censor myself further just because I think my point of view might offend others? Conversely, do I want to risk alienating friends and acquaintances because we have a difference of opinion? If they are a friend, would they care that I think differently?

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[info]inkbot wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 06:45 pm (UTC)
this is difficult to respond to because it's purposely vague, though in general i think it's always a good idea to be who you are/express how you really feel. of course, there are situations where we self-censor to keep the peace, but it's your journal! hm, i don't know. it's hard to say without knowing what you disagree about. for example, it probably won't work out so well for you if you, say, disagree that the world is an oblate spheroid or that bush is a twat. ;)

even if you did, though, it's still your mind/life/journal. healthy debate/difference of opinion is a good thing. it's the stupid things people *do* to force others to take on their point of view that causes problems...like bombing clinics, for example. that would be bad.

i believe that true friendship should be able to weather the truth.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 07:06 pm (UTC)
Well, I was thinking more in general terms, hence the vagueness. And I suppose I'm thinking more about the people I don't know that well (and therefore they don't know my opinions on certain topics), while my close friends already know how I feel. I suppose if I never feel the need to write about something like that, I should just do it tactfully.

i believe that true friendship should be able to weather the truth.

Hey, you eat those horrible mushrooms but you're still my friend!

;)
[info]inkbot wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 08:19 pm (UTC)
and you don't eat those wonderful mushrooms, and you're still my friend! :)
[info]fgmr wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 02:59 am (UTC)
Those weren't the "wonderful" mushrooms. They were just ordinary ones.
(Anonymous) wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 06:50 pm (UTC)
LiveJournal gives you fine-grained control over who sees which of your posts.
You could start being more selective.

You could go the brass balls route, but based on your post I'd say you have some skin thickening to work on first.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 07:01 pm (UTC)
I am aware of LJ's security features, but I have my own reasons for not wanting to lockdown my posts.

I don't feel any need for my skin to be thicker. It doesn't matter what people think of me. However, I do take the feelings of my friends into consideration, and that's why I posted what I did - I was pondering whether or not censoring myself was worth it if by doing so I spared a few friends some hurt feelings. If you were a friend of mine and I blathered on about how I thought the thing nearest and dearest to your heart was a load of shite, well, that's not a very pleasant thing to read, is it?

You could go the brass balls route

You could as well, by revealing your identity ;)
[info]rapier1 wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC)
Its always best to keep in mind the tactful thing just so you know what you should have said when you let people know what you really think. :)

Honestly, be tactful but truthful. Its possible to be both. Some people, however, do not subscribe to the belief that you can still like someone you don't agree with on everything. In fact, they'll assume that any disagreement is casus belli and will instantly stop talking to you if you dare say something they find wrong. Personally, I think these people suck and you are better off without them anyway.


[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 09:01 pm (UTC)
Personally, I think these people suck and you are better off without them anyway.

Agreed. If you're always tiptoeing around someone so that they don't explode, that's not a friendship.

One thing I really like about electronic communication is that, when done correctly, it allows you to be more tactful by giving you time to properly compose your thoughts and say things correctly. I suppose I should use that to my advantage.
[info]fgmr wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 07:55 pm (UTC)
This is why I develop private codes with my friends. I can then use the same words to say different things to different people simultaneously.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 09:04 pm (UTC)
Yes. The panther creeps on padded paws. The rooster crows at midnight. Don't tell "Bob" his "haircut" looks funny.
[info]cheezaddict wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 09:28 pm (UTC)
I have the same issue with my private paper journal as well. I often wonder how, if I don't burn all my journals in my old age, certain things I write will be received. I use euphemisms and codes there too. It's a huge issue, the balance between the benefits of recording exactly what you think and the limitations of audience. Online, I definitely think about my audience a lot more than I think about writing exactly what I think. But then, I have the paper journal if I need to go deeper.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 03:43 am (UTC)
I've tried a couple of times to keep paper journals, but both times I ended up destroying them after a few years. I would get past some point in my life and read back over what had happened in the recent past, and then I realized I didn't want to be reminded of my mistakes in such detail. (I still remember those mistakes, however, so I won't repeat them.)

I suppose one benefit to the censorship that comes with writing in a public forum is that most of the stuff I don't want to remember isn't saved for posterity.
[info]lilamp wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 11:52 pm (UTC)
my opinion is that anybody who isn't interested in knowing what you really think doesn't have any business reading your journal. isn't expressing your opinion about things what a journal is for? i think as long as you're not directly insulting people you know are reading (i mean, unless you want to), you should talk about whatever the hell you feel like. :)
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 03:43 am (UTC)
Very good point, thank you!
[info]eto_theipi wrote:
Jul. 27th, 2006 11:54 pm (UTC)
Now I'm all curious about what you're not saying!

I can't speak for all of your audience, but I'm not going to be offended if we have a difference of opinion.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 03:47 am (UTC)
Well, what got me started down that path was thinking that all these people complaining about the recent heat were insane (warm is good, you freaks!). But then it moved on to the general concept of self-censorship, rather than me having something in particular I wasn't saying.
[info]eac wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 12:19 am (UTC)
There are things to be tactful about, but I don't think tact means never telling people what you think. Plus, friendships come with the exchange of ideas.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 03:59 am (UTC)
Plus, friendships come with the exchange of ideas.

One of the things I really like about LJ is that it's another way to get to know your friends a little better. So I suppose I shouldn't be afraid to express my opinions, especially if I'm not afraid to read other people's.
[info]diemoniker wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 01:11 am (UTC)
You've never struck me...
...as the sort of person who'd form an opinion without at least a halfway good reason. You also seem like the sort of person who'd be happy to have an arguement, as long as actual give-and-take and dialogue was going on.

So...more opinion, please! Friends who can't take the presence of ideas contradictory to their own are bound to freak out about something and become Too Annoying to Drink Beer With eventually. It's a law of science. Or it would be, if the Mellon foundation would just give me money to prove it.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 03:52 am (UTC)
Re: You've never struck me...
Actually, I kinda like arguments as you described them above. I find getting into that sort of discussion forces me to reevaluate my position, and makes me look up actual facts to support it, rather than simply parroting back old opinions. And I've even been known to *gasp* change my opinion based on good information from an opposing viewpoint!
[info]allartburns wrote:
Jul. 28th, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
This is something that I think about as well. Sometimes I want to express an opinion and I just don't give a fuck about what other people think. I know that chocolate covered pretzels are amazingly tasty, and if you disagree, you can go soak your head in boiling oil for all I care.

On the other hand, I've wasted too much of my life tiptoeing around issues and self-censoring because I was afraid of offending people and not having any friends at all. It's taken me far too long to realize how much I'd internalized my fear of being alone and how that lead to my concealing my opinions and desires. I've finally grown enough that I'd rather be honest and have a couple of friends than dishonest and have lots of friends.

You and I aren't close friends, but we've known each other for more years than I can easily count. If you told me tomorrow that you were a closet furry or a log cabin republican I'd be quite surprised, but I'd probably still feel the same about you as a person as I do now but also be happy you'd opened up and told me how you really feel about something that was important to you.
[info]g_na wrote:
Jul. 30th, 2006 12:10 am (UTC)
Don't worry, there is absolutely no chance me ever becoming either a furry or a republican. In addition, i think chocolate covered pretzels are pretty tasty!

It's taken me far too long to realize how much I'd internalized my fear of being alone and how that lead to my concealing my opinions and desires.

I spent my adolescence and my early 20s trying to be somebody I wasn't, in hopes that I might attract more friends. I was afraid people wouldn't like me if they knew what I was really like, but as it turned out, *I* didn't like me because I wasn't really being me. So I guess what I'm trying to say is yes, I understand what you're saying.

And in that vein, I suppose I shouldn't censor myself too much, if by doing so I misrepresent myself and don't let people know the real me.

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